purplepieman

[galaxyman]

So, I was reading Wikipedia and I saw this as I was reading.

The 'first' reformation of this character occurred in the episode "Dancin' in Disguise" and while she remained partners with her brother throughout the series, she did wish for things to be different. In the finale, the Purple Pieman is at last reformed

Does this mean that the purplepieman becomes good or what exactly does it mean and if he does become all good, what is the episode that shows this. I mean, it's only natural right? I mean, if sourgrapes became good, then her brother would have to follow.

[Stella Grapes]

So, I was reading Wikipedia and I saw this as I was reading.

The 'first' reformation of this character occurred in the episode "Dancin' in Disguise" and while she remained partners with her brother throughout the series, she did wish for things to be different. In the finale, the Purple Pieman is at last reformed

Does this mean that the purplepieman becomes good or what exactly does it mean and if he does become all good, what is the episode that shows this. I mean, it's only natural right? I mean, if sourgrapes became good, then her brother would have to follow.

I wrote that. :lol:

Purple Pie Man works together with the protagonists in the last episode. I disagree with your last sentence. It was the other way around. The brother controlled the sister. Regardless of how good she is, he will do what he wants. If he is good, however, then she will follow because she is his follower.

[Blackberry Bun]

That line is about Sour Grapes, right? She "betrayed" her brother in the Dancin' in Disguise/Everybody Dance episode, which is the second-to-last episode of Year 3. Something probably happened off-screen thus by the time Year 4 starts she helped her brother's evil plans again, though seeming unwilling/reluctant. There's a fan fiction about the off-screen event, btw.

Near the end of Lights Camera episode, Purple Pie Man becomes convinced to work together with the kids, and it all ends well for everyone. This episode is considered as the final episode mainly because of the last line spoken there.

Strawberry Shortcake: Everybody loves happy ending! *High fives with Angel Cake*

[galaxyman]

Cool. Do you know where this fanfiction you speak of is?

[Blackberry Bun]

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I wrote it just for fun. Though I must say that some parts might be hard to understand because, if you read TvTropes, it has continuity nod.

[galaxyman]

thanks for the link, I will have to check it out. One thing I would like to ask though. I'm sure it was probably stella grapes who said this, but according to stella, the brother had control over the sister, but in the very last episode, it was the sister who kept on trying to convice her brother to talk with the Strawberryland girls and become friends with them. I haven't seen an episode where the brother tells his sister that she needs to get a long with the girls and I am not talking about the episode, "let's dance" because that was only done for the pieman's benefit. In the last episode, Sour grapes wasn't trying to benefit herself, she wanted her brother and possibly even herself to be able to become friends with the girls instead of doing all of the bad things that they were doing together, so with this reasoning, I'm going to have to disagree that the brother had control of the sister. I feel that it was the opposite in fact, despite whether the pieman was fighting to not "be friends"

[Stella Grapes]

She can talk him into things in the right moments. It's a matter of timing. She usually cannot change his mind. He threatened her all throughout Dancin' in Disguise, he was obviously controlling her in Down On The Farm, and it was clear that he was the one pulling the strings in every one of his plans.

There are times when she tries to convince him to listen to her by acting innocently cute. (There are also times where she whines, and there are times where she pleads, and there are times where she snarks.) Being cute works on occasion, like when he gave her the doll he found on the floor in The Sweet Dreams Movie. The more likely scenario is what happened in Down On The Farm, when he just yelled at her and did what he wanted. The difference between the two situations was simple. In the first situation, his plan was unaffected by letting her have something. In the other situation, he knew that the country fair, which his sister wanted to go to, would ruin his plan.

In the end, it took her and four of the children working together to convince him to help save the theater. By that point, he was probably tired of several years of failure. Also, notice that she always asked her brother for permission to do anything. She did not control him. That is a sign of quite the opposite. To an extent, she seemed to embrace this. I think she let him control her, in part out of a need to feel protected.

[galaxyman]

I don't understand why she let him control her. I mean, couldn't you take that example and compare it to real life situations where people let other people control them and not try to fight them. Maybe she did try to fight, but maybe he was the stronger fighter?

[Stella Grapes]

I don't understand why she let him control her. I mean, couldn't you take that example and compare it to real life situations where people let other people control them and not try to fight them. Maybe she did try to fight, but maybe he was the stronger fighter?

I don't think it quite came to that. I think it was more that she felt insecure and not worthy to face the world alone. That is how some people* are, not rare for females who have had difficult life experiences.

* The description in the link is not a completely perfect fit, I realize. It is from a website that describes nine core personalities. No one fits any of the nine personalities perfectly. For the most part, Sour Grapes fits the Type 6 description.